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>> for the first time, you are free to say yes or no by our own will. and for the first time we say to you, we hate you. we hate hosni mubarak. >> it's very hard to understand what freedom means until you lose it and you try to find it. >> i think that we have changed the history of not only that of egypt, but all over the world. >> i cannot believe. i'm just hearing that his dream has become a reality. >> there's something in the soul that cries out for freedom. those were the cries that came from tahrir square. and the entire world has taken note. >> you're looking at live images from tahrir square in cairo where the people are still
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celebrating into the early hours of the morning their extraordinary revolution. today by remarkable coincidence, it's the 21st anniversary of the day that nelson mandela walked free from a prison in south africa. "let freedom reign, the sun never set on so glorious a human achievement." what a day for egypt. that's all for london. here's anderson cooper with "ac 360." >> piers, thank you very much. good evening, everyone. to those watching in egypt at this hour, good morning, peace be with you. last week as thugs descended on peaceful protestors in lab ration square, we heard them say they were no longer afraid. tired of the indignities they had sured at the hands of mubarak for 30 years, they had defeated fear, they told us. the fear of mubarak, the fear of those police, the fear of the repression and the torture and the torments. they had defeated fear and there
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was no turning back. it was just a hope 18 days ago, a hope that fear could be defeated. but as the protests grew and the regime began to buckle, it became a belief and then a conviction and tonight, this night, this glorious morning in cairo and throughout egypt, it is fact. fear has been defeated in egypt. and whatever happens next, good or bad, there is no turning back. this is what liberation looks like. this is what joy, long suppressed, long imprisoned, long tortured and tormented, this is what joy looks like and sounds like. tonight, saturday morning in egypt, the revolution has won, the dictator mubarak is gone. but the new day dawning is not yet a democracy. these people may have liberated
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egypt, but the military now runs it. they've always had a tight grip on the economy and a long history of wielding power. this is the man believed to be in charge, defense minister under mubarak, now head of the military council running egypt. the council, now ruling by decree, but promising to carry out constitutional reforms and respond to demands. we'll talk about what happens next. but before we do, i just want to show you some of those remarkable moments today. as 80 million people in the world's largest arab country made history. last night, mubarak and his henchman, vice president suleiman and dug in, patronizing protestors, unleashing their anger. we can only assume the military had had enough. just after 6:00 local time after a day of protests, right in the middle of evening prayers, the bulletin came on from state television. >> translator: i have an important message from the
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president, in the name of god, the most gracious, the most merciful. dear citizens, these are difficult times. president hosni mubarak has decided to give up and commission the high council of the armed forces to take over. >> the statement from vice president suleiman. it cost blood, lives and countless sacrifices. but in the end, the regime fell with the blink of an eye. here's what it looked like just seconds later. people hugging, chanting "egypt is free. you're an egyptian, lift up your head." and they did, rich and poor, young and old. to the young google executive who helped organize the revolution, this was an especially sweet moment.
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that's him in his home. the world, he says, will be impressed. that is his belief. he said he'll not take part in any government but his work is done and in any case he's no hero. >> the real heroes are the ones in the streets. the real heroes today are every single egyptian. there is no one who was leading this. anybody saying he was one of the leaders is not saying the truth. the leaders on the square was every single person there. the leader in alexandria was every single person there. this was a revolution. >> ghonim today. we have a full interview with him ahead. and president obama poured praise on the egyptian people. >> this is the power of human dignity and it could never be denied. egyptians have inspired us and they've done so by putting the lie to the idea that justice is best gained by violence.
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in egypt, it was the moral force of nonviolence, not terrorism, not mindless killing, but nonviolence, moral force that bent the arc of history toward justice once more. >> the arc of history bent towards history once more. vice president biden calling on iran's government to follow egypt's example. 32 years ago, the shah of iran's regime buckled. theocracy followed though, not freedom. waeh ghonim says he puts his faith in 80 million egyptians. fear has been defeated, they're crying, and there is no turning back. joining us once again, ben wedeman, ivan watson and professor dr. fouad ajami.
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fouad, your thoughts? >> what can i tell you? i come from a generation whose heart was broken by egypt. we witnessed the defeat of egypt, those of us arab born who came to politics in the '50s and the '60s. we witnessed the defeat of egypt in the six-day war in 1967. and here we are, we now have the glory of egypt. egypt has given the arabs the way forward. civilian politics but resistance to the ruler. >> that's why we hear egyptians chanting "hold your head up high, we are egyptians." >> egyptians have been badly treated by the world, badly treated by colonial powers from the world over, and the egyptians finally reached their
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dignity. the tragedy of hosni mubarak is that here is a man who in fact took the dreams of egypt and crushed hem completely. he crushed all independent people in the country and insisted on his own primacy in the country and they were done with him. >> this hour last night mubarak had dug in, treating the protestors almost like children. suleiman had also gone on state television. and all of a sudden hours later he's -- they're announcing that he's gone. was this a coup? did the military just say to him, you have to go? do we know? >> reporter: we don't really have the exact details, anderson. but i think it was a combination of factors. for one, i think president mubarak and the people around him miscalculated the reaction of egyptians to his speech last night. they did not realize that this
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simply was not enough for people here in tahrir square and across the country. they wanted him to go. it was an equivocal demand and they simply perhaps did not understand it. another important factor to keep in mind is that the labor movement over the last three days was becoming increasingly involved in the revolution, and that -- if you look at other revolutions, the overthrow in the sudan, and ben ali in tunisia, it was the involvement of the trade unions later in the game that really brought down the regime. i want to share one bit of sort of a symbol of how things have changed. this is the state newspaper, and until recently, it was very much the mouthpiece of the regime. its headline today "the people have toppled the regime."
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this is incredibly significant when you think that just a few days ago, it was president mubarak on the cover almost every day. this was the newspaper of the regime. and now the regime is gone. and this newspaper is selling like hot cakes. anderson? >> save me a copy, if you can. ben, i also understand on state television that president -- >> i will. >> that president obama's speech was carried live and people had been calling into state television, they've had call-ins where people have been critical of corruption of the regime, of the state television and the anchors have been apologizing. >> reporter: this was an interesting day, because we had this huge demonstration outside of state tv, and state tv was running a banner that only five of their anchors were there, because no one could leave or enter the building because of the demonstration. and later by the afternoon, what happened was they started to
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take calls from demonstrators who were criticizing the state tv and its anchors, saying look, you've been lying all these years. stop lying, stop slandering the protest movement. and what you had was the anchors saying, we were caught in a trap. we were under pressure, but now we're going to tell the truth. and they started holding live interviews in front of the state tv building with the demonstrators. when i saw that, i thought there's no way that this regime, the previous regime i should stress, could go on when its mouthpiece started to talk basically the language of the protest movement. so very dramatic change in the tone. and this was before, of course, the announcement that president mubarak was stepping down. anderson? >> ivan watson, i hate to be the sober guy of the party who pulls you out of the fun to ask you a serious question, but i got to ask you, we now know that swiss
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banks have frozen -- the swiss government has asked banks to freeze the accounts -- any mubarak related accounts. they've asked banks to look at it. at this point, we believe mubarak is in sharmel sheikh. some people have said they want to see him on trial. others say they want to see the money returned that he's taken. >> reporter: that's been one of the demands growing over the course of the past 2 1/2 weeks, anderson. the big question is what are the demonstrators going to ask for next? are they going to start tearing down the barricades and going home? i was just walking around. none of the barricades have come down. the tents are still there. the security lines are still there. the young men patting you down. i asked how long are you going to be here? and he said one or two days. there were two opposing view
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points cropping up between different dmen stray tors. a larger group saying we did it, we won, it's time to get life back to normal. another group saying no, we got to stay here. and some of these people want to see hosni mubarak and members of his inner circle tried for what they say are crimes, many people accuse him of stealing from the nation here. >> fouad, how dangerous is what comes next? you have this military rule. we saw a member of the military today saluting not just mubarak, but the martyrs, the young people who have died in this revolution. there's a lot of popular support for the military right now. over months though, that can change. >> look, all revolutions in the end have all kinds of unforeseen
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consequences. the egyptians have now entered a new world. they have shed the old world. they will try to create this new country. they will want some accounting of what happened. and when you think of the legacy of mubarak and what he did to this country, he can think about it in sharm el sheikh or wherever he ends up. people committed suicide, grieving for him because they loved him so. and sadat let behind the legacy of camp david. people loved him. here is this man who looted his country and he leaves this power vacuum. so we return back to the military. it turns out that the military is the only viable institution, because mubarak devoured the political life of the country. >> he destroyed democratic institutions. >> absolutely. we have a good friend who just
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said a few words on television and he ended up being in prison for three, four years. they destroyed him physically and they wrecked his life professionally. you have iman nor, he runs against mubarak and he loses and he still ends up in prison. >> he ran for president and only got 7% of the vote and still ended up in prison. >> exactly, just for the tenacity for running against pharaoh. so you have this vacuum and the egyptian also have to figure out what kind of political future they want. >> do you worry about a push too fast for elections? >> i'm not worried about anything. >> really? >> because i think here's where we were. we were under an incredibly cruel man who had pulverized
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life in egypt. so i look forward to what egypt will spawn by way of politics and culture. and i think everything looks better than what this man had in store for you. >> it feels like people have underestimated egypt for 18 days and underestimated these protestors each step, ringing their hands say thing is bad, this is bad, slow down, slow down. and yet egyptians have something else in mind. >> and then there are these people who are second guessing the egyptians. this is a real moral embarrassment in this country. many are second guessing the egyptians, will they fall into a theocracy? will they break peace with israel? will they do this? will they squaumder the kind of freedom and new order they have gained? we must trust them with their own history. every time we wrote them off, he
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surprised us. every time mubarak scared them, they came out in larger numbers. so we must trust the ability of the egyptians to keep their own world in tact and to spawn a new and decent country for themselves and their children. >> more with fouad throughout this hour and ben and ivan and all our correspondents. the live chat is up and running. up next, how the obama administration handled the revolution and the serious challenges it faces ahead. also, fouad mentioned a power vacuum. we'll talk more about those concerns. that's all ahead.
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i think he praised mubarak verbally and paused to salute the martyrs. this is a scene of revolution, but this is iran, a video from 32 years ago today, the day of iran's revolution. and mubarak steps down on the same day that the iranian government was overthrown in 1979. we can take at least one lesson from the pictures of celebration from 32 years ago, the end of a dynasty is only the beginning of the story and there's no way to know exactly how it's going to play out. a lot of folks will say egypt is not iran, very different. we'll talk about that. today, president obama acknowledged the significance of this day and the fact that the story is just starting to be written. >> there are very few moments in our lives where we have the privilege to witness history taking place. this is one of those moments. this is one of those times.
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the people of egypt have spoken. their voices have been heard. and egypt will never be the same. by stepping down, president mubarak responded to the egyptian people's hunger for change. but this is not the end of egypt's transition. it's the beginning. i'm sure there will be difficult days ahead, and many questions remain unanswered. >> let's talk about the days ahead. joining me live, former cia director, james woolsey, jill dougherty, john king and professor dr. fouad ajami. mr. woolsey, how -- what is your biggest concern in terms of the months ahead? i'm guessing it's an islamist takeover or something to do with the military. what's your biggest concern and how do the egyptian people avoid it? >> one very much hopes that the
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excellent and disciplined behavior and peaceful approach that the egyptians have shown in these 2 1/2 weeks continues. but there's a whole history of revolutions, the french, the russian, the iranian of '78, '79, which it looks like the good guys are going to win. they do at first and months later the khomeni supporters kill the liberals in iran. we have to do everything that we can while staying in the background to perhaps bring about some economic investment in egypt, to help any way that we or other countryks so that they can build an infrastructure for democracy at the same time, they're probably relatively rapidly going to hold elections.
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but this story isn't over yet. i hope it all continues this way. but the history of revolutions sometimes goes much worse than this. >> fouad? >> the revolutions can be hijacked, they can be betrayed. as jim rightly said, the zealots can take them over. the iranian revolution had two revolutions, and the theocratic revolution won out. so all kinds of possibilities lie in store for the egyptians. again, we have to look at egypt and in 2011, it's not iran in 1979 and the conditions are very different. however, we cannot just say, well, all right, the liberal courts for egypt will hold. this is a very poor country, which is not really -- that's not the fertile soil for
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democratic liberal politics when 40% of your population lives below the poverty line, another gift from hosni mubarak to his people. so we have to be vigilant and the egyptians have to guard these gains that they have secured in liberation square. >> jill, what are communications like? do we know between the u.s. and the egyptian government? it's been a real problem obviously for the past few days. my understanding from reporting of you and john and others in washington is that the white house frankly didn't even have any advanced warning that mubarak was going to be stepping down. do we know now what the communications are like between the military that's ruling and the white house and the state department? >> that's one thing they're looking at, anderson. right now they are telling us that they're trying to figure out exactly how this military council will work, who exactly is in charge of it. sometimes the leader of a group like that may not emerge for a while. how do they talk to them? at what level?
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the bureaucracy here has to talk to the bureaucracy there. they have to get a bead on what their policy is. there are many, many questions and they're looking at that right now. it's not very clear at all. >> john, what have you learned about what has transpired in terms of the white house and the government in the last 24 hours, vis-a-vie egypt? >> we know there have been mixed signals. yesterday morning when the president said they were witnessing history, they thought and were told that mubarak was going to leave yesterday. they are quite happy he left today. to jill's point, this is a fascinating moment, because normally it is the president and then his secretary of state who are the faces, the voices of american foreign policy. during this crisis, the most important voices were the secretary of defense, robert gates, and the chairman of the joint chiefs of staff who have personal relationships with senior egyptian military officials and secretary gates alone spoke to the field marshal at least five times.
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going forward, those relationships are critical. some date back to the first persian gulf war. i spent some time with the troops in the saudi desert 20 years ago before the ground war started into kuwait to push saddam hussein out. yet secretary gates and admiral mullen are due to leave the administration in the months ahead. so it's interesting to watch diplomacy being run out of the pentagon. >> a lot of the officer corps in the egyptian military has been educated in the united states in military colleges and military schools. ben, how much is known about this guy? >> reporter: we know that he's really from the same generation of former president hosni mubarak. he's in his mid 70s. he's received training in the soviet union. he seemed to be very much an establishment man in dealing with the military. under mubarak, the military was
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very pampered. they were well equipped, well paid. but the price was that they stay away from politics. now, the chief of staff is a different sort of man. he was trained in the united states. he's a generation younger than mubarak. he's somebody who has had much more easy and constant contact with the united states military. so it's a mixed bag. we don't know a lot about the other members of this higher military council. of course, nobody was really aware that such a council even existed until this crisis came. sorry about that. a little unruliness here in tahrir. not surprising. >> jim, at this point, it's important to remember the interior ministry is a massive organization in egypt. professor ajamma saying they had 1.5 million secret agents, informers and the like.
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that apparatus is still all there. it's hated. it is feared. what happens to it? do we know much about how it will work with the military? >> i don't think we do. at least i don't. i think that it's obviously got to be a scaled way down and back and controlled. i think that the only thing we've really got going for us and the egyptian people do here really is the coherence between the egyptian military and the population. you saw those wonderful films of the egyptian soldiers hugging some of the children and the demonstrator groups and giving people tea and so forth. a lot rides here on the military keeping things stable and working with whoever helps manage things anew in egypt to scale back and down and control some of those outfits like the interior ministry people.
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>> jill, james, john, thank you. ben wedeman, dr. fouad ajami stick with us. coming up, two of the most compelling voices talked to us. one a google executive on leave. one of the stars of a movie. here he is celebrating today in his family's home when he heard the news. his job, his family, his very life on the line. he emerged as a leader. he was detained for more than ten days. i talked to him. that interview in a moment. also, khalid abdullah, star of "the kite runner." he's been setting the scene for us. tonight, you'll hear from him how much that scene has changed. e is frowned upon in this establishment! luckily though, ya know, i conceal this bad boy underneath my blanket just so i can get on e-trade. check my investment portfolio, research stocks...
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welcome back. those are the words today from a central figure in the egyptian uprising. wael ghonim is a google executive turned activist. some people say the roots can be traced back to what he was posting on facebook. a spokesman called ghonim a hero. he had a lot to lose, a family, great job, detained by security forces for ten days. no one told him what was going on, whether he would live or die. just a few days ago, he said he was ready to die for the cause. i spoke to ghonim earlier today. wael, your thoughts on this extraordinary moment? >> i'm proud to be egyptian.
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i just want to say from the bottom of my heart congratulations to all egyptians. you know, i want to say welcome back, egypt. i just want to say to hosni mubarak and omar suleiman and all those people who thought that being in power means you can oppress people, you are responsible of the killing of 300 innocent egyptians. you guys are still going to pay the price. it's enough for you guys that in the history books they're going to say one word to describe you, dictators. today, i'm telling you egypt is going to be a democratic state. egypt is going to start all over, and you will be impressed how fast we will be developing. >> did you believe this day would come when you set up that first website, when you were in detention, being blindfolded? >> i personally believed.
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at the moment you break the psychological barrier of fear, the moment you break the fear, the moment you convince people that if they die, it's better to die for a good cause than to live without dignity, which is something that we all worked on in our message at the very beginning. then you should be sure that you are going to win. >> and your thoughts at this moment almost turn to all those who have lost their lives just in the last two weeks. >> absolutely. >> so much blood has been spilled. >> those people are the real heroes. those people are the real heroes. you know, there are lots of people we know that have died. and also i wouldn't forget those who were arrested. there are about a thousand people that no one knows where are they right now. we are looking for them. we want them back. i was not the leader, by the way. it just happened that i got all the attention that i don't deserve.
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i'm not down playing my role, this is the truth. it's not me, it's the people in tahrir square, who saw their friends and family dying beside them. those are the real heroes. >> wael, this is wolf blitzer. first tunisia, now egypt. what's next? >> ask facebook. >> ask what? >> facebook. >> you're giving facebook a lot of credit for this? >> yeah, for sure. i want to meet mark zuckerberg one day and thank him. this revolution started online. it started on facebook. i always said if you want to liberate a society, give them the internet. if you want a free society, give them the internet. i want to say thanks to you and you folks on tahrir square. you guys have played a great role in saving the lives of hundred it is not thousands of people.
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this regime did not care about the people and they would have killed a lot of people if there was no international media. cnn did a great job. you guys deserve a commission from the egyptian people. >> we just got a thing crossing wires saying the military council will sack the cabinet, suspend both houses and govern. your reaction to that? >> amazing. in is great. these guys don't want to be in power. they want egypt to come back. as we told you, even if i don't trust anyone, this is the time where history is being rewritten now. we are dreamers and we made it happen and it's time now to celebrate for a couple of days. and then go back and start thinking about how can we develop this country and what is the best way. >> incredible when you think eight days ago, government thugs
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and mobs were hunting for reporters, looking at live shot locations, hunting literally for cameras to pull them off of balconies so the world would not witness the attacks taking place in liberation square. i remember getting lit up with laser sights. another enduring voice has been khalid abdullah. he traded the movie star life for a place in liberation square. he's given us his perspective every night. just last night he spoke in a tired voice about the arab disappointment among the protestors. today, a new day. i spoke to khalid a few moments ago. khalid, where were you the moment you heard the news? >> i stepped out to a friend's flat, because i had to record a message for a demonstration that was supposed to take place tomorrow. we were just downloading the footage. in the middle of doing so, it
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turned out to be irrelevant, because suleiman came on tv and gave all 12 seconds of his speech. we ran out to the balcony, and then ran into the middle of the square. people were shouting and screaming and crying. saying that they were going to take their country into their own hands, that they were going to build it. people feel enabled and empowered. people feel like the country's future is in their hands. it's a feeling they never had before. one of the most beautiful things i saw, because i took a long walk around, and i walked up to the bridge, which was a very cleansing feeling. but the most beautiful sight was the sight of children chanting that, you know, hold your head high, you're an egyptian. >> so many people around the
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world have watched this and have i think underestimated you and the other protestors and say oh, they're too young, they're too idealisic, and then they said they can never stand up to the government and the protestors did that. then they said their full demands will never be met and they were. now they're saying what happens now? you know, will this revolution be overtaken by a group like the muslim brotherhood or by the military? do you have faith that the egyptian people have somehow found a voice and will not lose that voice? >> i know for sure. and also something to say about the muslim brotherhood, i think they have fundamentally changed over the, you know, over the last few weeks. there they were, you know, they've been living in a -- they've been living in a square, you know, in and amongst people from all walks of life. the tent i was in, you know, directly next door to me had muslim brotherhood and i had a
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long conversation with them yesterday. i think the way that they think has changed. but regardless of all that, i don't think there's any possibility of them coming to power. in regards to the military, i think the military knows that it's in the service of the people. >> what do you see in the months ahead? do you see -- i talked to mohammed elbaradei. he said look, we need a year, egypt needs a year in order to develop democratic institutions and parties and in order for people to grow and support different parties and for free and fair elections to take place. do you see a birth now of parties? do you see the birth of democratic institutions happening? is that critical? >> in terms of political parties, i think now there's going to be a flourishing of voices. people want to participate. that's an extraordinary thing. not just people who were here. not just egyptians who were here. egyptians who are abroad. what has happened here, you have
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to understand this, that under hosni mubarak there was no space for political participation or feeling like you were part of this country's future. now there is. >> khalid abdullah, appreciate your time. >> thank you so much. i just need to say it to you again, it has really meant so much your coverage to all of us here. >> thank you. it's an honor. thank you. >> from the heart. >> khalid abdullah. egyptians still celebrating, mubarak stepping down. some of the most remarkable moments from all over the country we've heard in the last 12 hours and some final thoughts from dr. fouad ajami and ben feedman and ivan watson and others on the ground. diet snapple has healthy stuff. [ horn honks ] and tasty stuff. we just took out the calories and stuff. so who comes up with this stuff? i do. ooh! now who wants some free stuff? [ all ] me! snapple. the best diet stuff on earth.
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today, revolution is what we witnessed. a long ruling dictator driven from power and a long oppressed people celebrating in the streets, in that square, waving their country's flags, honking horns, tasting freedom for the first time. the egyptian people are demanding democracy. whether they get it, they are demanding it.
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right now, today, old egypt is dead. a new egypt is born. >> translator: president hosni mubarak has decided to step down as president of egypt. and has assigned the higher council of the armed forces to run the affairs of the country. >> just moments ago the news came out. hosni mubarak is stepping down. >> i'm proud to be egyptian. i just want to say from the bottom of my heart congratulations to all egyptians and i want to say welcome back, egypt.
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>> it's a sense of liberation for me, for every egyptian. a sense of emancipation of the whole egyptian people. and for the first time, egypt has a chance to be democratic, to be free. egyptians have a sense of dignity, of freedom. it's amazing. it's like 180 degrees. something we never experienced in our lifetime. >> one egyptian put it simple, most people have discovered in the last few days that they are worth something. and this cannot be taken away from them anymore. >> there's a feeling of euphoria down here. [ horns honking ]
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>> i'm so excited. i can hardly hear what you're saying, so i'm just going to give them a chance to talk. >> i am very happy now. always the people of egypt are very happy because mubarak is going. >> i think we will be a country that has freedom. >> i think that we have changed history not only that of egypt, but all over the world. and we will rebuild egypt. i repeat, we will rebuild egypt. >> i think we make history now. and i think we deserve this, as we make this. >> i think it's the best day ever. >> today is an overwhelming day for egypt. everyone is happy. everyone is finally free. >> we had a chance to taste freedom.
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>> egyptians riding the wave of history today, harnessing that wave and the wave washed us all today. incredible day in history. some final thoughts. ben, your thoughts? it's hard to process, but do you have a final thought for us tonight? >> reporter: my thought is 18 days from the first what seemed like a modest demonstration, which grew very big to what we saw today. huge demonstrations in tahrir square. huge demonstrations outside the president's palace. huge demonstrations outside of state tv. we really saw the ability of the egyptian people. and the power of people to bring down a regime that so many people thought was permanent, couldn't be shaken. it's been a life changing experience to see this happen in so sho a period of time. 18 days.
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anderson? >> ben and your photographer mary rogers have covered it unlike anyone else. ivan watson, a thought from you? >> reporter: i've been covering this region in the middle east. it's sadly all too often a blood soaked region. of conflict and extremism and i just feel honored to have been able to witness up close a bright and shining very pure moment of history here where arabs, egyptians got up and taught me that they could do something just really, really beautiful and peaceful and make change and believe in it. and it brings out an idealist in you in a world of cynicism. it was really incredible. and this revolution was growing until the moment that we heard president mubarak was -- ex-president mubarak was
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stepping down. we were watching the crowds coming up by foot from tahrir square six miles away to the presidential palace and the people who were already there embracing them. when that news hit, it was an explosion of joy and i saw two men drop to their knees and start praying right away. it's an amazing couple of weeks. >> ivan, you and all the reporters have risked your lives in the last two weeks and we thank you for your reporting. fouad, your thoughts? >> you know, the people of cairo love their city and they have this great label for it. they call it the mother of the world. this is a city that was established a millennium ago and it has fallen on hard times and they wish to rebuild it. the egyptians have a memory. it helps that they have a memory.
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women's emancipation, great artists, great novelists, genuine parliamentary competition. it's not like they had to do something they've never done before. they just have to find their bearing and erase the legacy of this despotism and they will find their way. >> fouad, i appreciate you being with us in many of these 18 days. our coverage continues. some important news after the break. we'll be right back. [ female announcer ] enjoy a complete seafood dinner for two
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before we end, a quick check of the other day's stories. joe? >> today was the last day in the briefing room for white house press secretary robert gibbs.
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president obama bid him farewell by returning a tie to gibbs, now framed that mr. obama borrowed from him to give the keynote address at the democratic national convention in 2004. an unusual light show in eastern ohio. a gas pipeline exploded last night shooting flames 200 feet into the air which could be seen for miles. the explosion happened in a rural area. no one was injured. and the condition of this humpback whale is likely due to scoliosis or curvature of the sign and not the result of a collision with a ship. that's what a marine expert told a newspaper. a pilot spotted the whale off hawaii's coast and assumed the whale was injured by a ship. >> unbelievable. joe, thank you very much. we're going to continue to follow the story of egypt in the days and weeks and molts ahead. thank you for sticking with us throughout this coverage. our story of egypt continues and so will the coverage. back to cairo at the top of the
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